Celebrity Foreclosure Watch: Ed McMahon

A few weeks ago it was widely reported that a Congresswoman from California was having mortgage trouble. Today we find out that Ed McMahon is talking about foreclosing on his house. This from Yahoo! News:

Ed McMahon talks about possible home foreclosure

Ed McMahon on home foreclosure: `If you spend more money than you make, you know what happens’

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Ed McMahon blames the possible foreclosure of his multimillion-dollar Beverly Hills house on a set of problems all too familiar to many Americans: a foundering economy, health problems and poor planning.

“If you spend more money than you make, you know what happens,” McMahon said Thursday night on CNN’s “Larry King Live.” “You know, a couple of divorces thrown in, a few things like that. And, you know, things happen.”

McMahon, 85, appeared with his wife, Pamela. The couple said they are $644,000 behind on their mortgage payments and are in negotiations with lender Countrywide Home Loans Inc. to set a foreclosure date.

McMahon, in a neck brace, said he had stopped working since he broke his neck in a fall 18 months ago. He didn’t elaborate.

McMahon, who was Johnny Carson’s sidekick on the “Tonight” show, said the house had been on the market for two years and that although 50 organizations or individuals had looked at it, no one had made an offer. Documents show McMahon has a $4.8 million mortgage on the home.

“It’s like a perfect storm,” he said. “Economy problems. Selling the house right now is a tremendous operation.”

If you know of any other famous folks on the brink of foreclosing on their home I’d like to hear.

Do a Short Sale or Foreclose? Either Way Your Credit is Shot and It’ll Be Hard To Get a Loan in the Future!

Whether you foreclose, do a short sale or go through a deed in lieu of foreclosure your credit is shot. The extent to which your score falls may differ, but to any future creditor it is all the same. Not only that but when you apply for credit in a few years, its really important to not have any derogatory items on your credit report for at least 24 months prior to an application. For example lets say you do a short sale this month (June 2008) and you apply for a mortgage in June 2011. Then you should not have any derogatory items (late payments) since June 2009. Also, from the recent changes to credit guidelines it may be well after 2011 that you can even apply for a mortgage loan.

I had discussed this point in response to a visitor question back in December 2007. Recently another reader, who happens to be a very knowledge mortgage broker, left me a comment clarifying the current guidelines and how things are viewed today. I figured it would be to everyones interest to have the comments published as a post. So, below is the response from Catherine Coy to my post from last December “Will “Forgiven” Debt Affect My Credit Score?”

You’re very mistaken as to the impact of foreclosure vs. short sale vs. deed-in-lieu.

As a mortgage broker myself, I get many calls these days from consumers wondering what affect a short sale or foreclosure (or deed-in-lieu of foreclosure) will have on their credit. This is an important topic because the last real estate downturn (during the 1990s) preceded the widespread use of FICO scoring and automated underwriting systems.

Some real estate agents and short sale investors (those seeking to purchase a homeowner’s property prior to foreclosure)–and even some mortgage professionals–suggest to the distressed homeowner that a short sale isn’t as damaging to one’s credit as a foreclosure. Given the inherent conflict of interest—a real estate agent makes a commission on a short sale and doesn’t in a foreclosure—the real estate professional should proceed cautiously when counseling a seller. The practical reality is, short sale or foreclosure, one’s credit will suck either way.

Many mistakenly believe that a derogatory public record such as foreclosure is somehow worse than petitioning the lender to accept less than owed (short sale). In the world of banking, however, lenders interpret either of these events only one way: the customer did not pay as agreed. It matters not to a lender the manner by which it suffered a loss; only that it did. Lenders go to great lengths to alert each other, by way of reporting to credit bureaus, that the defaulting homeowner is someone who, when the chips were down, didn’t honor a contract.

In fact, lately Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac took an even stronger stand against homeowners who renege on their obligation. “Seasoning” of a foreclosure or short sale is now five years.

Fannie Mae Tightens Guidelines Again

In the world of FICO scoring, there are three credit events that will severely sink a FICO score, and they all carry exactly the same weight. They are (1) serious delinquency, (2) derogatory public record or (3) collection filed. A homeowner in default is technically “in collection.” These events are reported to all three bureaus as “Score Factor Code #22.”


A foreclosure will remain on a consumer’s credit report in the “public records” section for ten years. In addition, this fact must be attested to on the loan application under “Declarations,” Section VIII, as follows:

(c) Have you had property foreclosed upon or given title or deed in lieu thereof in the last 7 years? (Y/N)

(e) Have you directly or indirectly been obligated on any loan which resulted in foreclosure, transfer of title in lieu of foreclosure, or judgment? (Y/N)

Because the term “short sale” is not expressly stated, some interpret this as meaning that a short sale is a lesser offense. The truth is, decision makers in the lending industry know that a short sale is no different than a foreclosure or deed-in-lieu. Here are two excerpts from a lender’s underwriting guidelines.

The following items are subject to individual evaluation, no matter how high the
credit score:
• Bankruptcy, foreclosure, deed-in-lieu, short sale.
• Judgments, collections, charge-offs, tax liens.

~ and ~

None in past 4 years with minimum 3 active trade lines more than 24 months old, with no late payments or derogatory credit after the foreclosure.

Definition of Foreclosure: Any 120 day mortgage late within the last 24 months, any notice of default or settlement on a real estate secured trade line (short sale), any deed-in-lieu or forbearance agreements.

To the homeowner with a mortgage he can no longer afford, the decision to voluntarily vacate through a short sale or be forced out by foreclosure can be agonizing. The sterling credit reputation it may have taken a lifetime to establish is gone with a single event. Most landlords with whom I’ve spoken state that, due to the widespread credit meltdown, they would view a foreclosure as not particularly onerous—provided that all other credit obligations were met on time. A credit report riddled with “derogs” over a broad category of obligations would be viewed negatively.

For the homeowner who, if he remains in default, must eventually vacate his home, there may be an emotional advantage to avoiding the social stigma of the “F” word—foreclosure. He can tell himself and his friends, “I’ve never had a foreclosure,” but to his lender and the credit bureaus, foreclosure and short sale are exactly the same.

This article is intended not as a judgment of the motive or character of a homeowner in distress, but to present the facts so that no one is misguided. There’s no credit preservation advantage to short sale over foreclosure. The nation’s two largest mortgage investors, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac—with certain exceptions—won’t lend again for five years. A consumer’s FICO score will take a huge hit either way until responsible credit behavior supplants the major hit of foreclosure/short sale over a period of time.

Congresswoman in Foreclosure

I guess even folks in Congress are close to foreclosure on their homes. I really shouldn’t be surprised though. The guys on the Hill are so used to spending other people’s money like it grows on trees and I’m sure that mentality is bound to sink into their own personal finances at some point – at least if you’re a rookie which this Congresswoman seems to be. Here is the story from the LA Times this morning:

Update: California Rep. Laura Richardson today denied a published report that her $535,000 Sacramento home had slipped into foreclosure, saying she had renegotiated her loan to keep the home.

The house “… is not in foreclosure and has NOT been seized by the bank,” Richardson, a Democrat from Long Beach, said in a statement. “I have worked with my lender to complete a loan modification and have renegotiated the terms of the agreement — with no special provisions.” (Richardson’s entire statement is at the bottom of this article).

Earlier, Capitol Weekly reported that Richardson walked away from the mortgage on her $535,000 Sacramento home, letting the house slip into foreclosure and disrepair less than two years after she bought it with no money down.

“While being elevated to Congress in a 2007 special election, Richardson apparently stopped making payments on her new Sacramento home, and eventually walked away from it, leaving nearly $600,000 in unpaid loans and fees,” the publication reported.

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